Yesterday two Africans walked away from the Culpepper show in Kansas. Pictures unfortuantely can be found in newspaper all over the world.
Friday, June 6, 2008
Spinning Escape
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10 comments:
Well, it's no wonder! The unfortunate creatures were terrified by the tornado sirens and severe weather, from what I understand.
Mary Ann
Well, yes...the storm was a factor. But storms happen. Given the dire weather warning in Kansas yesterday, even the sudden wind gust that hit prior to the sirens and set things in motion for the walk off wasn't perhaps entirely unexpected. In that part of the country even tornado sirens have to be factored in as a potential issue on a day when intense storm activity is forecast. Sometimes even acts of god make for an imperfect patch. Fortunately the media thinks that elephant escapes are "cute."
Ben,
"Fortunately the media thinks elephant escapes are cute". I think they need to be told that they surly aren't, and they are very dangerous for anyone around.
I'll bet I could drive one of Roger Penske's race cars cheaper then any driver he could find. I'll also bet he wouldn't be interested in hiring me. If producers were Penske's incident's like this would most likely be rarer. I have suggested it for 17 years, and I hope somebody else will address it soon as I am getting old. Maybe speaking to the press about what is "cute" might be a proper time to address it. How in the hell can something as wonderful as the circus, be "with it and for ited" right into the ground!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This isn't like the 'circus comes to town' stories of days gone by
http://www.eatonvillenews.net/CIRCUs%20MORTON.html
Anonymous,
And Barry Bonds being arraigned today, was not "America's Pastime", so what is your point. You need to try to make one.
Wade
Hmmm.. Kind of thought the point of this blog was to avoid the whole "Anonymous" thing. Let me take exception to more than a few statements in that 2003 news article. The notion that USDA overlooks "minor" non-compliance is simply untrue. In point of fact the vast majority of cites for non-compliance whether a circus or a zoo are indeed minor and corrected if not on the spot, within 24 hours. I'm not excusing non-compliance, but for example an expired medication in the back of a cooler is a fairly common cite that has nothing to do with husbandry. Likewise records keeping compliance is high on the list -- failure to make notes of a Vet visit for example. Vehicle violations are common. Or an open feed sack which might potentially attract rodents. I don't actually recall ever having an inspector tell me that they were going to "ignore" something because it's minor. Nor should they. Inspection isn't about crime and punishment, ideally it's about helping an exhibitor stay in compliance so that minor issues don't become major ones.
Ben,
The point of avoiding anonymous's on this blog was for anyone to take unfair "shoots" at an individual, from behind a tree, out of spite. It has to be pretty well disguised, as a recent post was. But some will know, as I, and others did.
If it is valid, verifiable/printed at a company or individual, then it can be run and rebuttals such as yours offered. When the smoke clears, we will be able to make an informed opinion based on the exchange.
Wade
Ben,
"I am not going to write that down, but you are going to want to take care of it", might be misconstrued as overlooking, or ignoring."
Wade
Well, I on one hand, I agree with the (now relaxed) annoymous rule when it comes to slanderous posts, but would it make a difference if I posted my name? I don't mind posting it, but I am no one who anyone would even know, so what would be the difference? I'm just a former circus worker who worked on a few shows, but have followed the industry very closely from the outside. Shows I was on include - Hanneford,Garden,Wallenda,London Palladium (Peru and Bolivia), Circo Remy, Roberts Bros. Believe me, I rarely tell anyone of my past association with the circus. I just don't want to deal with either reverting to my old position of making excuses or blabbing out every sordid thing I've ever seen. Being in the business, you have no idea what a poor opinion many people have of the circus.
It's too bad the circus has been so slow to make changes, but they have reaped the consequences, and not many people outside the biz are mourning. The other blog has the quaint feel of old vaudvillians reminiscing about the good old days while insisting that vaudville is still viable. From what I've seen, in it's present state, how can the circus overcome it's past?
Wade, you have a point about the Barry Bonds comparrison, but people aren't likely to boycott baseball over the steroids scandal. I go to ball games quite often and have never seen a crowd of protesters.
Ian Craik
(see, you still don't know who I am)
Massachusetts
Ian,
Hat's off too you friend. You got stones. Theres a name, Ben.
Ian, would you suppose if MLB was hiding Bonds in the dugout, or shifted him to the front office, they might be more inclined to protest?
And look at his salary, imagine if he was trying to pay attorneys on less then a truck drivers salary? And MLB still said, "get out there Barry. Regardless of who your father was, and forget Willie Mays for a moment, you need to address this." I'm thinking the sport may weather this, like they did the Black Sox scandal, and become even bigger and more popular. And that will be great for the participants of the sport.
Wade
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