That's a good question, Chic??? Because when you type King Tusk in the search engine, the picture above is only found on the King Tusk link, it is not on the Tommy link. Yet you said it was Tommy. It can only be found searching for King Tusk. Not Tommy. So Chic, Buckles "considers" this to be King Tusk. If it mattered what he "considers."
Now Chic, who is this above? Tommy or King Tusk?
Tuesday, September 29, 2009
For Chic--I wonder what Buckles would consider his name?
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Wade G. Burck
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Sure glad that I've given you
something to play with
He's still TOMMY to me
A goat is a goat is a goat
Some of us predate both "blogs"
and "search engines"
Chic,
So which one is Tommy is which one is King Tusk. Or if you prefer, are they billy goat's or nanny goat's. I don't play much when it comes to special animals, Chic.
Wade
P.S. So are you saying you are more like a Encyclopedia Britannica, Chic.
No Wade I don't at all think
of myself in any such terms
I do however find my aging
copy of the print version (in
a very nice binding) a more
civilized source of knowledge
I would wager that there is
no mention of either Tommy nor
King Tusk however
(still curious of Jimmy's and
Buckles take on this)
As I recall there were 3 goats
but have no idea of their sex
(nor do I really care)
Obviously a slow night on TV
LOL....LOL....LOL...
Thanks Wade
What's the tab for the floor show
Chic,
Now you are getting it. There are no King Tusks or Tommy's in your Britannica unless you are looking for a Tommy who sings, dances, acts, leads countries, writes books, builds things, etc. etc. But you won't find a King Tusk. Now this internet deal that sucks, google in Tommy and hold your breath and wait for a large male elephant with giant ivory to appear. You will suffocate before he does, Chic. But before you make that mistake, google in King Tusk and see what appears.
What do you mean, you have no idea of a goat's sex? Hell Chic, they love it. Didn't you grow up on a farm? My first girlfriend was a Toggenburg/LaMancha sweetheart with eye lashes to die for.(relax Mary Ann, stop gagging, I'm kidding.)
Forget goat's, which you brought up in the first, for a moment.(rock in the bushes didn't distract me, Chic!!!) What about elephants? If you don't know which one is Tommy, then tell me which one is King Tusk?
As for TV, I am probably watching the same crap you are, don't you suppose?
Maybe you didn't understand what I meant when I said, "I don't care what Buckles" or let's add Jimmy "consider King Tusks name to be." We have just seen that Buckles really can't decide. Depends on what paper he want's to hang that day. That's showbiz, Chic. What I maybe should have said was "I don't give a f**k, care less then a quick breath, not a damn, what Buckles or Jimmy consider King Tusks name to be." Now, if you are still not understanding me, maybe somebody else can explain, because until a voice from circus heaven named Buckles gives a tablet of commandments to Jimmy, to take to the people, they are just "kinkers" like me. Jimmy can call that bear that put's out fire's Popsicle, if he want's to. But the people who buy the tickets, will know it is Smokey he is talking about.
Wade
Chic,
No charge, your compted. I didn't hear you? Which one was King Tusk? Top or bottom?
Wade
Wade Mon cherie;
they both are.....Lol.
Mireille.
I do admire your perseverance
Wade.. kinda like the little
engine that could
Do you know if it's the same
Tommy that Ben Davenport gave
to Norma & Pete with a few
others as a wedding gift
Chic,
You answer my question first. Which one is Tommy and which one is King Tusk.
Wade
Wade, I wasn't gagging, I was laughing my ass off.
Mary Ann
Mio aussi...!
Chek pelotas! LOL.
Mary Ann.
Very nise to see you back...!
Mireille.
Mireille, the guys have had this blog to themselves for too long. They need some good women to keep them in line.
Mary Ann
Mary Ann;
Bravo!
Obviously the press and PR people would refer to him as King Tusk, but I am sure that the handlers would say, "get over Tommy or move up Tommy, or lie down, etc. and all of us circus people and not First of Mays would call him or refer to him as Tommy. His stage name days as King Tusk were very short considering his long tenure as a performing circus elephant. And Chic, he was not part of any present to Norma and Pete from Ben. You are a little mixed up in that assumption. Just for the record.
Thanks John
I only asked about the photo
that Wade had posted (along
with SO MANY others) that was
titled from Davenport as I
had no knowledge of his prior
time to that of Tony Diano
You are certainly one of the
most respected animal trainers
(and a pretty decent fellow)
Hope all is well with your
entire clan
Tanglefoot,
Don't start in the middle of the book again. Read the other threads, where I said, that many animals have a barn name, and a show/registered name. As Chic is not a handler, but I assume an "us circus people" you may be right, in a long stretch, but you never bought a ticket. But, I also got something here you can "first of may", Col. Tangle. And although his "stage name days " as King Tusk were short, they were the best of his life, of which I am very grateful and happy for him. Unfortunately for King Tusk not as long as his circus performing day's "tenure" elsewhere as Tommy. Us first of mays prefer to remember him when he was on top of the world as King Tusk, treated with the respect and admiration he deserved. Speaking of respect, where the hell is an elephants "beak?" Usually only "bulls and rubber cow's" have those.
Wade
Chic,
Maybe you had no prior knowledge of that because you spend too much time on the "history channel" cutting jackpots. Here is where you come to learn facts, uncensored and unmanipulated. We don't try to rewrite circus history, just tell it like it is. If we could ask him, and he could speak for himself, I promise you King Tusk was happiest where he ended up, and not where he came from and most "respected animal trainers" will tell you that, and that is why he will always be King Tusk.
Wade
Sure glad that you got to know
him so well as he always spoke
well of you also
I only met Lee Kiener on a few
Shrine dates when Jean Charles
(aka Tarzan) would ride Tommy
down the hippodrome track and
enter the steel arena on a web
Long long ago
For Chic,
Quote: "I acquired ownership of "Eva" from the Ringling Show early in 1982 and immediately changed her name to "Peggy". I you ask Buckles the names of the elephants at Scott Riddles that he donated, 20.00 says he tell you Peggy and not Eva.
"Scott Riddle
is the owner of Riddle's Elephant Sanctuary in Guy, Arkansas.
He is shown with Peggy, an Asian female."
But he might say Peggy(formerly Eva)
"You're right, "Betty Boop" on the left, long time Vargas elephant and "Peggy" (originally "Eva").
Buckles
john herriott said...
The cursing shows a degree of frustration and in a no no in professional animal training. We curse with and at the animals in jest as to their or human idiosycrasies. By no means can the parties in the video be remotely considered "animal teainers". Animal trainers must show a trmendous respect for their charges and that type of cursing is not tolersted. I and my friend Buckles plus other animal elephant trainers do not like or refer to the term "bulls", "rubber cows", etc. It is demeaning to the animal and the term elephant is sure the appropriate term. This has been my case for seventy years.
6:39 AM
Blogger Wade G. Burck said...
John,
That is an out and out falsehood in regards to cursing an animal in "jest", or what is this nonsense, "human idiosycrasies", and you know it. How many times have you heard or told the story about the animal who thought his name was Go* D**mit because he was always told "move up, Go* D**mit" or come here, Go* D**mit. Doing something wrong is bad, attempting to scrub your hands clean for the same thing is worse. He unfortunately got busted, and that is unfortunate. Understandable in a heated situation, but not condoned, is cursing. In this case the animal appeared to have done nothing. That made it inexcusable.
I have always used the term, "trunk" to describe the long appendage on the end of an elephants face. Do you know of anybody who uses the term "beak" as in bird. Go on Buckles Blog and count how many times the term "bulls" is used and by whom.
With respect,
Wade Burck
I and my friend Buckles plus other animal elephant trainers do not like or refer to the term "bulls", "rubber cows", etc. It is demeaning to the animal. John Herriott from above.
"From the rig down to the harness trappings and racks for the bulls and hoof stock it was spotless."
Jimmy Hall 18 August, 2009 11:27
Chic, anybody else you wanted to ask "what they consider???"
Jim A. said...
Eva and Topsy(?) started out in America as Florence and Pearl in the St. Louis Zoo's children's zoo. Don't know if Eva was Florence or Pearl. Tony Smaha Sr. picked them up at the Zoo and took them to Baraboo.
Maybe you should have asked Jim A., one of those goofy zoo guy's what he considered, because we sure know what the other's consider.
Wade
Didn't Mel Brooks title one of
his films "History Of The World
Pat Two"
Perhaps you should write "History
Of The Circus Part 37" for all
the 2nd & 3rd of Mays
WHAT was that rant all about
Seems like you're off the meds
Chic,
Rant!!!!!!!!! This is the only thing I said:
"If you ask Buckles the names of the elephants at Scott Riddles that he donated, 20.00 says he tell you Peggy and not Eva."
"But he might say Peggy(formerly Eva)"
"John,
That is an out and out falsehood in regards to cursing an animal in "jest", or what is this nonsense, "human idiosycrasies", and you know it. How many times have you heard or told the story about the animal who thought his name was Go* D**mit because he was always told "move up, Go* D**mit" or come here, Go* D**mit. Doing something wrong is bad, attempting to scrub your hands clean for the same thing is worse. He unfortunately got busted, and that is unfortunate. Understandable in a heated situation, but not condoned, is cursing. In this case the animal appeared to have done nothing. That made it inexcusable.
I have always used the term, "trunk" to describe the long appendage on the end of an elephants face. Do you know of anybody who uses the term "beak" as in bird. Go on Buckles Blog and count how many times the term "bulls" is used and by whom.
With respect,
Wade Burck "
"Chic, anybody else you wanted to ask "what they consider???"
"Maybe you should have asked Jim A., one of those goofy zoo guy's what he considered, because we sure know what the other's consider."
The rest above was from folks you wondered what they considered? It's wasn't my rant, and you know I don't drink, and have never used a drug in my life, so med's arn't an issue. Which one of the elephants on the other thread are Tommy, and which is King Tusk? Why won't you answer that? Med's need to be cranked up?
Wade
When was the bottom picture taken? It bears a striking resemblance to Radza of the Emmen Zoo before his ivory grew. The shape does not look like that of K. Tusk.
Was his working name changed to King Tusk? Or did it remain Tommy while his public persona was amended?
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