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I di wish they would "fight" an animal that has been properly prepared for the contest i.e. given a chance to get used to the light and sound, perhaps even practised a few times and then NOT weakened by bandeleros and picadors. In other words really fight..how would these guys do out in an open field? Bloody spectacle yes, sport no. My other wish would be to slip in a Cape Buffalo or Gaur.
Anonymous,
It was "properly prepared for the contest," by being raised in the wild on beautiful coastal and orchard grass pastures. It is killed because by the time the fight is over it has figured out the matadors "moves". It's head has to be lowered for a clean kill, that is the purpose of the banderillos. The picador is so that the matador can study how the bull charges, and which horn he favors. A cape Buffalo is not near as noble as a fighting bull, and Gaur are unacceptable, as the are too tall, and the kill comes from over the top. You would have to be mounted like a rejoneador. The open field is silly, the animals would run away. They have to be corned to fight.
Wade
Thanks Wade you prove it is not a sport. In Portugal they fight the bull but don't torment and tease it.
To say a Cape Buffalo is not noble is pure s... The fact is the greatest matador in history wouldn't last 5 minutes.
I don't understand why the torture and inhumane treatment of these bulls is included in your blog.
Toby,
I have never considered it a sport. I consider it a cultural art. I also think any animal breed for a purpose has a "different nobility. I have enjoyed it and studied it, (more so the rejoneador and his horse) because of the similarity's to animal training, with a different end result. Every aspect of the is designed to study the movement of the animal and his reactions. The bandarillos are no more harmful then an elephant hook. They are surface cuts, which accounts for the massive amount of blood loss. The bull is killed, as he starts to figure out the movement of the torero. That is why he is only fought once. If he proves himself superior, he is spared and genetically bred, in the hopes of reproducing that same superiority. Not much different then a Derby winner being retired to stud. Add to that the religious significance of the various movements and cape moves(and I am not a "religious" person, but I appreciate the history)and it is no different then any other religious/cultural celebration. As much art as the circus, the ballet, and theater. That is why I post it on the blog. I do not approve of dog fighting or cock fighting, although I study the breeding genetics, color and family lines of the fighting cock. I don't like anything that pit's animal against animal.
Wade
Wade: I guess we will have to agree to disagree and perhaps sometime we can find a shady spot under a tree to further this conversation. I don't think one can honestly compare the banderilleos barbed darts too the ankus. That's like comparing the whip you might use in working a ring of horses with the lash used in prisons to punish criminals.
Toby
ps did you know the ankus is one of the oldest metal implements known to man
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