Three cubs of "leotiger" born Monday in Italy, at the winter zoo of circus Embell-Riva (Bellucci family). Here the pictures of them, of mother and father... 
Courtesy of Raffaele
Tuesday, October 21, 2008
Ligers in Italy--I question ethically whether this is appropriate anymore?
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Wade G. Burck
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Wade, I agree with you. Ir's definitely not appropriate, as they have no place in conservation. They really shouldn't have a place in entertainment or experimentation anymore either. They already know that ligers are large and tiglons are small, and why, so what else is there? If it were an accidental birth, perhaps that's another question.
Mary Ann
Mary Ann,
I kind of look at the "white" lions that way. You are trying to breed something that is not there. Yes, you may possibly be successful one day, but if that is the case, get off your "conservation bandwagon." A mating of a lion and tiger became unjustified in the 1800, after the first experimental breeding to find out how closely related they were proved successful. If you have a male and a female of different species/families living together, I don't think accidental is a valid patch.
Wade
Of course in circuses those "conservation" experiments are not so much aiming to the Nobel award or to the progress of the science as to the box office....
Raffaele,
That's a known fact, and nothing wrong with box office. But they need to quit playing the conservation/they are my children card in interviews and marketing. Just because the reporter is nodding their head in agreement, doesn't mean they are buying it. They might just be being cute and charming/polite as that is "feel good interview" protocol. The Circus can not lose sight of the fact that the world is not made up of hillbillies and rural farmers any more. It might help our validity issues, and aid in the suggestion of the title ARTS, if that was addressed.
Regards,
Wade
Right.
Concerning this point, have you read the new Siegfried and Roy unofficial biography? It is very well documented about the white tigers subject and those ethic issues of marketing vs "conservation".
Raffaele,
What is the title of the "unauthorized" biography? I wasn't aware one had been published. Those are the one's I save my money to buy, as they are the most accurate. I have saved for years my two favorite New York Theatrical Critic reviews. One touts me as "the Heir apparent to Gunther Gebel Williams", the new Prince of the Rings." The other suggests, "his performance was an embarrassing spectacle, better suited for the lowly mud show from whence he came, out of place on the GSOE" My mother disagrees with the second reviewer, but it keeps it in perspective for me. LOL
White Tigers, tracing pure to Rewa, not crossed Siberian, not "snow white" and not "tabby", have a valid historical place in wildlife conservation, as do the Timbuvati line of Champagne Lions, to illustrate the ill effects of a lack of genetic diversity and the down side of an isolated breeding population, but not "white" lions. Those are sports, like a cross bred "white" tiger, bred for mans pleasure only, but are of no historical significance to conservation.
Wade
Wade, I believe that Raffaele is referring to "The Secret Life of Siegfried and Roy" by Jimmy Lavery. It just came out in April, and it is available in hard cover at Borders for $25. I am next in line to check it out of our library system.
Mary Ann
Yes, is this one.
And, beside the scandalistic aspects (and contents) is an extremely researched and well written book.
I'm sure everyone will love its reading as I did.
Buy it today and you'll not stop until the last page.
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