Saturday, September 20, 2008
The grey stallions corbettes on long lines is spectacular, but the capriolles suck
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Wade G. Burck
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7 comments:
Madame Col.
The grey stallion corbetteing on lines appears to be using his left front leg to either keep his balance or to pull himself forward. Is that acceptable or should he only be using his back end for forward motion/balance?
Wade
Wade, thank you for posting this. I had never seen a horse do a corbette before, and it really is spectacular. I am interested in seeing the answer to your question.
Mary Ann
Wade,
do not know anything about horse training or the difference between a corbette and a capriolle. However, I still have a question. When the horses do their big jumps in the air, do the trainers need to use reins, or are they there for visual effect. Can a horse do this trick without the reins?
Amy
Amy,
Yes they can do the capriole without reins but not very well, and not to the written description/standard in which the behavior is described. I don't care for any behavior that doesn't meet a standard. Then it is only opinion, not fact.
Let's let Madame Col. Olds Rossi, or Co. Herriott tell you how the reins/bit are used in collection for a proper capriole. I'll only look stupid if I try to describe the usage for you. LOL
Wade
Not being an expert on the "airs", it looks to me that the white stallion on long lines is jumping a bit forward instead of jack hammering up and down. That would account for the leg looking like it is pulling forward and I would imagine is a balance factor. It is great though and hardly worth commenting. I think Albert Ostermaier's black Lipizzan were cleaner though and more up and down with a tight fold to the front legs. Why not post Albert's video again while this one is fresh in our minds.
As to the reins, without them would be suicide, I mean in presenting the movement. The side reins keep the horse in a collected form and will cause more explosion as he has to do this collected and not at free rein. At free rein the horse does it in a more natural way, if at all, and not so beautiful. There would be no way I would think of controlling such a high degree of strength and balance.
A few of the capriolle horses seem to be held back by the reins instead of the handler moving forward with the horse thereby allowing him to finish the kick- out up in the air instead of while coming down. Been there, done that and learned well after much loud verbal corrections from Rex not to be outdone by the huge yank to both arms and back. LOL
Those are my observations
Dianne,
Thank you. Alberts horse was the one I was thinking about, when I noticed the front foot, "pulling" it forward. How do I find that video of Albert again?
Wade
I never had that particular video footage of Albert and the black horse. Did Jody send it to you? It was either posted here or on Buckels blog.
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