I am going to address this thread as the Rodeo industry did in response to the animal rights movement. Do the animals look healthy, in good shape, well bred and well taken care off?
Monday, August 25, 2008
Be a member of the ticket buying public for a moment
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Wade G. Burck
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Yes, Wade, these tigers look healthy, in good shape, well bred and well taken care of. Whose are they?
Mary Ann
Mary Ann,
No they are not. And that is the problem with not standard. Whose they are, I have no idea. I wouldn't embarrass them by publishing their name if I did know.
But there are people who love horses, and would look at the grey one with the young lady mounted and see beauty. And thats why there are still such massive steps to be taken in the "what's proper and improper usage of animals, what bad physically, and what's bad mentally" Does the industry address it, as the rodeo has, or do we let the public perceive what they want and dictate to us.
Wade
Wade, I see your point. The public very often does not know good from bad, right from wrong, in areas where they are not educated, or they have no expertise. If standards are not set and met, then the industry is open to the AR nuts pointing out the flaws to the public, who says "Wow, I never noticed. This industry is awful." With standards, the bad apples would be more likely to be weeded out, and the AR nuts wouldn't have a case.
Mary Ann
Mary Ann,
Henry Edgar and I had the same conversation in 1984. If nothing else, I am glad somebody is starting to see, who did it to who. We don't come into town in darkness and leave in darkness 24 hours later any more. The world has changed.
Wade
Hey, give those cats a break. They have bad photo days same us folks.
Dion
Mary Ann - [first comment] - puleeze!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dion - the camera has yet to be made that can falsify this!
Wade - "... the ticket buying public" will cop these animals sweet because they have stripes, teeth and [presumably] four legs and a tail.
How do I know this?
Because we've had to use tigers like this in Australia for years due to the lack of good quality stock.
Steve,
I think quality is only as good as you breed or select. How many trainers/owner from you country choose an animal for the same reason that the public sees them? It has stripes, teeth, 4 feet and a tail, and the price is right. If you bought a performance horse with the same criteria, chances are he will never piaffe, change leads properly, or cut cattle. Then you are left with the lion act you referenced and being a "gentle European style" trainer. LOL
Wade
Steve,
It was mentioned one time that the public doesn't go to horse shows, and it is only people who are there with their horses. While that may be the case, every person in the seats does know horses, and you aren't going to fool them. Maybe it was easy to fool, and the only one's still buying a ticket were the ones that were/are fooled?
Wade
Same here in Australia - horsey people go to horse shows.
But - lots of people still go to the circus over here and the most common comment is that is NOT a circus without animals.
Trouble is that they DON'T know what they are seeing [we've got the huggers and kissers among our trainers too] but because Joe Public doesn't see whips or or an animal being made to do what it should be doing, they cop it sweet. Same with their own kids - don't MAKE the little darlings do anything and you'll be GOOD parents and the kids will love you forever!
Meanwhile the animal [or the kids] don't know where they really stand - which has got to be a form of "cruelty".
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