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Saturday, July 26, 2008
What a tragedy, that this used to be done with lions and tigers.
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Wade G. Burck
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7 comments:
I doubt the saying "What a handsome fully clawed male" would be applicable here. I have been mixed up in a couple scrapes (though never intentionally provoked, and I got them broke up as fast as possible) and I am thinking the males color would have "changed" if these two were in fact intact. Maybe being "fully clawed" seems more impressive, if you aren't used to seeing it.
As far as it being a tragedy, it is, as were most animals in film from that era, because the field was flooded with circus "trainers" or worse, people who didn't make it on the circus.
Lets all just hope this was a "first taker" we saw
Casey,
I don't agree it was flooded with "circus trainers", but it did have a number of the others, as nobody had realized the financial windfall of a sanctuary. At the end of the one clip, the actor suggest to the other actor, "you should know that you are a zoologist." And actor 2 says, "yes, but you have the practical experience." And they have been pissing and moaning the value of those statements ever sense. LOL
I one of those unfortunate creatures died, they couldn't retake it, just get different "volunteers"
The closest I have came to that was watching another person "train". After watching their futile effort for 10 seconds, I went in an broke it apart. That was the closed I came to seeing an animal killed. Their "thank you?" "I could have done it myself, if I had more time."!!!! I have found you have 5 seconds to get them apart, before either a serious injury occurs to the vanquished, or worse if one has gotten a throat hold on the other. You will also find that like a lot of things the longer you do this thing of ours, the animals "learn" not to fight. LOL
Wade
That lion/tiger fight actually occurred during the filming of a Clyde Beatty flick. According to what I've read the segment, including the part where the tiger died was included in the final movie. People never realized that they had seen the real thing and not just a movie effect. I've never seen a Clyde Beatty movie, so I'm not speaking from first hand knowledge, but I have seen a longer version which shows clyde, so I do know it was his animals. The clip was posted on another site (not YouTube) showing the whole event. I had sent the link to the other blog, but it was not posted. I'll see if I can find it again.
Ian
And the famous Clyde Beatty took part is this horrific scene for a movie? Shame.
There was a fight between two lionesses in the movie Born Free, the story of Elsa , and Joy and George Adamson. In this case the fight was induced by leading each lioness to believe that a certain piece of land belonged to her. Then the lionesses were brought out at the same time to this piece of land, and their territorial instincts were allowed to surface. One has to question whether that action was justifiable in the name of entertainment.
Mary Ann
Well,,,,
I am waiting.......
I want too here some more about how F*&#ing great the old school was. And what a bunch of bumbling idiots the young trainers of today are.
Remember folks, you saw it here first, THIS WAS NOT TRAINING!!!
Mary Anne, There was some controversy when it was discovered that some of the scenes that Marlin Perkins filmed were staged with rented animals including one with a leopard attacking baboons, It came to light when they were darting and tagging a supposedly wild, but actually tame and rented, bear in the Everglades and the bear died.
Ian
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