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6 comments:
Geraldine has something that distinguishes her (and other circus riders) from the grand prix dressage riders - a magnetic smile while she's working.
Those dressage riders look like they hate everything and everyone.
I'll take a good high school rider over a good competition rider any day. Actually, I'd rather watch a beautifully trained and presented circus horse than any competition.
Ian
Ian,
Tip about show biz. Geraldine is selling Geraldine, hence the smile. The Grand Prix riders is selling their horse, against other horses. You must look for the horse to smile.
I enjoy the circus horse for what it is. But nothing takes away from a one on one, I was mounted better then you were today competition. I think it is the standard that appeals to me, not the smile/con of presentation.
Wade
For me it certainly is more fun to be able to design my own passion but in the Dressage world there are necessary movements that must be performed to a standard. Only the best need apply and it is serious business. I enjoy both when done well but agree that the Dressage riders take it to the next level of SERIOUS! I just wish that more circus riders took it a little more serious and try and make really good high school horses and better riders.
Well, thats where competition differs from circus. In the circus you can have the best animal ever trained in the history of the world, but if it doesn't leave the audience uplifted and awed, it falls flat. If the circus relied only on afficianodos for business, the seats would be as empty as those of many horse shows.
The circus is after all, show business. Presentation plays a huge part along with technical ability. Otherwise, why bother with wardrobe, lights and music?
Ian
Ian,
That is why there is such a problem with a standard, and why a "circus competition/awards festival is no more valid, competition wise, then a Miss America pageant. Heaven forbid, that cute butt/flashy costume and sexy smile should have nothing to do with the junk being presented. Heaven forbid, Suzy Jones may not be as "cute and charming" but technically presents a more correct movement/presentation. The horse competitions you mention are not advertised to the public with very rare exception. And do not operate and survive by the number coming in the gate. They survive by producing and marketing the superior product after the competition. That's the difference. But try to get a good seat at the World Cup sometine. Imagine how many empty seat's could be filled in the circus, if those afficianados bought a ticket to enjoy the show, and to see who met the standard as set by the industry.
Wade
Wade, they still don't get it. The best of both world can be accomplished if there is enough interest but as long as only flash and costumes are the only criteria it is doomed to failure. I am seeing absolutely gorgeous pictures posted of fabulous horses, costuming and performers, but I don't see them here.
Since Dressage is such a big event in Europe surely that has some credit to the grand horsemanship I have see represented. I think the key sentence from Ian was quote "Actually, I'd rather watch a beautifully trained and presented circus horse than any competition" and I would agree but tell me just where I may go to see this marvelous revelation besides Europe.
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