Tuesday, July 15, 2008

Fire Magic X Paloma ???

Fire Magic above and Paloma the Cremelo(does it look like a color you have seen before, Mary Ann) Saddlebred mare, Dianne has chosen to produce her dream Palomino colt. Black Friesians are beautiful, but imagine a Friesian looking/moving horse in different colors. I have my fingers crossed for the upcoming birth.

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11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Yes, Wade it looks like the color of champagne lions. Did you get the link I forwarded to you from Joe of the new baby champagene lions?
Mary Ann

Casey McCoy Cainan said...

Isn't there some deal were you aren't sposed to breed a Frisian to anything but another registered Frisian?

Anonymous said...

Casey, An approved breeding Friesian stallion cannot be bred to mares that are not registered Friesians. Non approved stallions can and are bred to others for sport horses or even to Friesian mares or in my case and a few others for Friesians of Color. In the Friesian mare's case the foal can be registered in the B book and after a few generations can then go into the regular Fhana book. Fire Magic is the only red registered Friesian in the stud book, he will never be an approved stallion because of his color. There are many Friesian stallions standing at stud that are not approved stallions, there are maybe 25 approved stallions in the US.

Anonymous said...

Casey - that is certainly the deal here in Australia. Some of the Friesian people in this country would be having heart attacks if they read this blog with talk of "Red" Friesians etc.

My wife is a Friesian freak and her first comment this morning was ".... you can't do that!". [Then I realised that she was talking about horses!].

Anonymous said...

Wade, please elaborate on palomino horses. Are they similar to calico cats?
Mary Ann

Wade G. Burck said...

Mary Ann,
HELL NO!!!!!! One is a masterpiece from God, and the other is a damn cat. Jesus.
Wade

Casey McCoy Cainan said...

Like I have said, I know little about horses. I remember in lates 80s early 90s, Tina Franzen bought a Friesian stallion from a guitar player from Aerosmith for what I though was a ton of money for a plain black horse. With this horse came a bunch of papers for her to sign promising not to ever breed it to anything without consent from someone else somewhere else.

Anonymous said...

Steve, be sure and tell your wife to be prepared and bring her smelling salts if she comes to the states, half Friesians and "B" book Friesians are plentiful. Some of them are gorgeous, Arab/Friesian cross is excellent and are doing very well in the show ring. Also the spotted crosses can be outstanding, just think a spotted Friesian...stunning have seen them and you couldn't tell from a purebred.

Wade G. Burck said...

Dianne,
I think part of the initial excitement of the Gypsy Vanner was that it kinda looked like a Friesian but was spotted. The disappointment was, they were not as big moving, powerful or charismatic as a Friesian, and you had one of the Queens pretty Drum Horses.
Wade

Casey,
The gentleman from AeroSmith got "duped" into the excitement of the initial Friesian imports, as many, "more money then good sense" celebrities did with the Andalusian and Arabian breeds. Most quickly "dumped" there purchases any place and for anything(I'll bet it was sold for less then a quarter it's purchase price) when the tax advantage evaporated. A few exceptions being Patrick Swazye with his Arabian Stallion Tammarlin and Charlie Watts, drummer for the Rolling Stones, who has a fine Arabian Stud in Devon England and Greg Garrisons devotion to the Andalusian.
Wade

Anonymous said...

Wade, I apologize. I was not trying to be insulting to you or to the horses. I looked in wikipedia and found the definition of palomino to be "a single allele of a dilution gene called the cream gene working on a red (chestnut) base coat." I then realized that what I was thinking of is a paint, but when I looked up paint, the picture showed only black on white. I guess a much more appropriate question would have been to ask if it is possible to have a horse have red and black color on a white background, similar to a calico cat, and what would such a horse be called? By the way, you are not too patient in excusing my ignorance.
Mary Ann

Wade G. Burck said...

Mary Ann,
Relax. No apology necessary. What you are describing is called a Zony, a Zorse, and a myriad of other names. You don't want to know what I call them. They are the result of crossing a Zebra and a Horse, or a Zebra and a Donkey. LOL
Wade