From Vincent Manero
Wednesday, July 23, 2008
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Does anyone have a date for this photo or the name of the rhino?
In 1990, Flavio Togni told me that there was a young male white rhino with Circus Medrano, Italy, and that it was then being presented by Heros Casartelli.
RJR,
I assume this is the same rhino, and Vincent could probably date it.
I am glad you are here, because I have been wanting to ask you something. What about this Tarzan deal? No, I'm just kidding.
Often times because an animal is not used much, rhino, giraffe, hippo, snow leopard, etc. etc. people assume it is hard to train, instead of assuming maybe it cannot do much, and is rather boring to some audiences.
With very rare exception I have noted 3 things with rhinos. They are all older animals, they do the exact same thing, and I never note 2 or 3 babies being raised and made ready to replace the adults.
Never having trained one, I have come to the conclusion that if one is good, it is the exception and you stay with it for it's lifetime. Two, physically they are not capable of much, and 3, when this one is gone, you want no more trouble and don't need youngsters waiting in the wings.
Elephants work as a herd, do a multitude of behaviors, and give rides. Much more useful and exciting then a rhino or a hippo
Richard,
I took this picture in Torino in the Winter 2006. Don't know the name of the rhino but it's a male and travel with Medrano since many years.
Wade,
I don't agree with you concerning the place that rhino, giraffe or hipo have in a show. Maybe what you said is the case in the US but in Europe these animals are a big part of the classical Circus publicity. Have you ever heard people screaming when one of these animal enter the ring (specially in Italy)? They are also very bigs attractiions for the menagerie. EU shows make good business with the visit of the menagerie during intermission which is not free of charge in EU. But it's true that Circuses will no more be able to get babies rhinos so they will slowly disapear from the ring. Zeila a female white rhino spent most of her life with the Swiss Circus Knie. She died in 2006 at the age of 43 y.o.
Vincent
Vincent,
You didn't disagree with me. You moved them to a new location. And yes the American audience has traditionally like a more exciting presentation. And it has squat to do with culture, sophistication, or higher intelligence so keep that self serving statement on the shelf. The majority of the shows have been in buildings or big tents since the 50's. And single or small things do not appear or look as impressive as they do in a small round tent. Who's tent in EU would you put all of what you saw in Evansville in? You couldn't fit the Aerial Ballet in a Chapiteau, no offense to the beautiful productions in EU. It is also proven that it is easier to impress up close, then at a distance.
I have seen rhino, hippo, and giraffe in circus's. But no, I have not seen them in Italy, so I have never heard the people scream.
Again in America, if they spent 15 minutes looking at it in the menagerie, it had better be pretty impressive when it comes in the ring, or they are just seeing the same thing again. They have been tried here, Vincent.
Wade
The name of the rinho is John.
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